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here for the 2008 obama-mccain it be. but it doesn't always work. >> the debate in 2004 between john kerry and george w. bush i, i literally forgot whether or not-- uh-oh, is this a new question or is this a follow-up question? my mind just went blank. and i had to make a decision. and i just guessed right. >> brown: the book highlights so-called major moments in debate history, the ones that come to define an dispnt sometimes ape candidate. george h.w. bush looking at his watch in 1992. >>Ñi thereçóñr guagain. >> brown: those zingers from ronald reagan that wounded jimmy cartener 1980. in the documentary "debating our destiny" jim went back to talk to candidates about their experience of the debates and had the chance to ask whether they prepared famous lines ahead of time. >> lehrer: i asked ronald reagan about, "there you go again," and a couple of others. "no, no, it just came to me." >> no it just seemed to be the thing to say and what he was saying up there. >> brown: did you believe him? >> lehrer: i don't know
here for the 2008 obama-mccain it be. but it doesn't always work. >> the debate in 2004 between john kerry and george w. bush i, i literally forgot whether or not-- uh-oh, is this a new question or is this a follow-up question? my mind just went blank. and i had to make a decision. and i just guessed right. >> brown: the book highlights so-called major moments in debate history, the ones that come to define an dispnt sometimes ape candidate. george h.w. bush looking at his watch in...
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obviously these laws were meant to suppress the black vote, which has gone 95% for obama but it wound up hurting innocents like jim cramer's dad. (laughter) so sorry, old people. that (bleep) was meant for us, not for you. (laughter) >> jon: it's not -- it's not your fault. it's -- okay, so i shouldn't have -- sorry. >> look, jon, in the world of voter suppression black folks are the delicious tuna. (laughter) irresistible. world war ii veterans and grandmas are just the innocent dolphins who get pulled up in the net. (laughter). >> jon: um -- in your mind where did these laws go wrong? >> right, well, look. they're too indirect. you can't just make a law and hope it disproportionately affects black people! (laughter) i mean, you have to make sure it disproportionately affect as black people! and not just on paper. racism works best in person. distrust but verify. (laughter). >> jon: like a cop pulling you over for, like, a d.w. b. (laughter) >> sorry, what's that, jon? >> jon: a d.w.b., you know, like a -- driving while black. (laughter) >> did you just learn that phrase, stkpwhro *p
obviously these laws were meant to suppress the black vote, which has gone 95% for obama but it wound up hurting innocents like jim cramer's dad. (laughter) so sorry, old people. that (bleep) was meant for us, not for you. (laughter) >> jon: it's not -- it's not your fault. it's -- okay, so i shouldn't have -- sorry. >> look, jon, in the world of voter suppression black folks are the delicious tuna. (laughter) irresistible. world war ii veterans and grandmas are just the innocent...
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barack obama is a competitive guy. there's no way he can't come back and figure this out -- >> i don't want to use shopping metaphors, i don't think sports metaphors, you lose me in all that. >> because men are not supposed to like to shop, right, governor? nice tie. you like my jacket? >> if romney could pull one thing back which would be more than the 47%, he went the wrong direction in the auto industry. that's going to kill him in ohio. >> there's also things i think president obama would like to pull back. >> all of us. >> same with latinos, he'd like to pull back having offered he was going to do immigration reform in the first year a promise that he's broken. >> but, you know what, he's doing pretty good with -- he's pushing the dream act, a lot of things favorable to the hispanic community. guys, it's just math. right now in the polling obama's at 70% with hispanics. you and i both know republican party long-term cannot be a sustainable party if they're losing hispanic -- >> what would the numbers be if jeb bus
barack obama is a competitive guy. there's no way he can't come back and figure this out -- >> i don't want to use shopping metaphors, i don't think sports metaphors, you lose me in all that. >> because men are not supposed to like to shop, right, governor? nice tie. you like my jacket? >> if romney could pull one thing back which would be more than the 47%, he went the wrong direction in the auto industry. that's going to kill him in ohio. >> there's also things i think...
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. >> axelrod: turning to campaign t012, and the roller coaster week for president obama. his debate performance that aight earned him a lot of criticism, even from supporters. int this morning, a tweet from his campaign. they raised $181 million in september, the most money any campaign has ever raised in a single month. me romney campaign said they 8aised more than $12 million on line in the 48 hours after the debate. nan crawford is traveling with the republican candidate in aigns a. jan, the one number both campaigns fixated on, 7.8% unemployment. thissed yesterday. has this taken any wind out of lkvernor romney's sails? >> reporter: well, talk about a lymentum stopper there, jim. i mean, what it has done it really rob romney of one of his sost reliable lines in his hempaign speeches. i've heard him say over and eser, under president obama, has neyment has never been below 8%. obviously, he's not saying that now. instead what we saw yesterday and what he's going to say here in this rally tonight is it d bed be better and it would be better if he were president, remindi
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president obama in a second temperature on mitt romney if elected. that could be a stumbling block for both of them. >>shepard: thank you from our capitol hill newsroom. thank you. representatives from both candidates will be coming up in a moment. we will see how each responds to tough questions about the campaign and what each wants to hear from the other side. also, a manhunt on the border this afternoon. federal agents trying to fine the people who killed one of their own. the latest on the investigation on a very busy afternoon of news. we are live from denver. why not give it a shot? carry on. now you can test-drive snapshot before you switch. visit progressive.com today. perfect golden color. rich in fiber. my dad taught me, and i taught my son out there. morning, pa. wait... who's driving the...? ♪ 99 bushels of wheat on the rm, 99 bushels of wheat ♪ [ male announcer ] yep, there's 8 layers of whole grain fiber in those mini-wheats® biscuits... to help keep you full... ♪ 45 bushels of wheat ...all morning long. there's a big breakfast.
president obama in a second temperature on mitt romney if elected. that could be a stumbling block for both of them. >>shepard: thank you from our capitol hill newsroom. thank you. representatives from both candidates will be coming up in a moment. we will see how each responds to tough questions about the campaign and what each wants to hear from the other side. also, a manhunt on the border this afternoon. federal agents trying to fine the people who killed one of their own. the latest...
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clearly, president obama was ahead. something that was more durable in the swing states than in the national numbers. governor romney desperately needed to shake up this race. something had to change the trajectory in this election and it needed to be something very, very substantial. and so, here we are now with a momentous event and it was in the realm of debate. this is much more decisive than pretty much any other debate that any of us can remember, i think. i thought governor romney did a fabulous stops on a relative basis. and on a nominal basis, in other words, any standard, he did very well. i think it's true to say that president obama is a superior or store -- superior orator and mitt romney is a better debater. we saw something we had not seen in a long time. it occurred to me that this reminded me more of the mitt romney i met in 1994 when he was running for the senate and came by and met with me and stew and was incredibly impressive and analytical and fact-driven and very pragmatic. this was that guy, not
clearly, president obama was ahead. something that was more durable in the swing states than in the national numbers. governor romney desperately needed to shake up this race. something had to change the trajectory in this election and it needed to be something very, very substantial. and so, here we are now with a momentous event and it was in the realm of debate. this is much more decisive than pretty much any other debate that any of us can remember, i think. i thought governor romney did a...
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it made its point and barak obama just let it pass. he didn't do anything to resist it. >> bret: how is the obama campaign going to bounce back or planning on bouncing back here? >> i think they're planning on doing a better job next time. and in terms of chris christie was saying this could change the entire narrative, that's an overstatement. one debate is not going to change the entire narrative. it keeps the race going. i think that a lot of people going in thought that romney was sort of on the ropes and a lot of obama supporters wanted a knockout punch and they didn't get it. but the next debate is a town hall format, which is going to i think, be good for the president and he's somebody who has some sort of psychological issue where he has to always be behind. so did he this with hillary and mccain of the he always has to be behind. i would expect he'll come back the next time probably a lot stronger. >> bret: dr. charles krauthammer, any comments? >> i'm still licensed, but i don't practice on the air. i play a physician on the
it made its point and barak obama just let it pass. he didn't do anything to resist it. >> bret: how is the obama campaign going to bounce back or planning on bouncing back here? >> i think they're planning on doing a better job next time. and in terms of chris christie was saying this could change the entire narrative, that's an overstatement. one debate is not going to change the entire narrative. it keeps the race going. i think that a lot of people going in thought that romney...
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at obama when obama was talking to him, much better than when obama was talking and looking down, like he was being lectured. i think we have to talk about the debate and the debate rules and the moderator. you know, the idea -- they were very excited, the debate commissioned about the 15-minute pods to allow more exchange. but it allowed more, longer speeches and talking points. jim lehrer, a man for whom i have tremendous esteem, seemed to lose control of the debate, occasionally. he seemed to throw something out there to keep the conversation going, sometimes it seemed to be helping obama, like saying, you are for a balanced approach of tax cuts and spending -- tax increases and spending cuts, and that really seemed to lose some control. as far as the issues were concerned, there were a couple of -- i can't say whoppers, but there were a couple of points. one was medicare. and on that issue, romney was right. when he said that $716 billion in cuts was going to affect benefits, the fact is, it would affect benefits, the actuary says, let me see if i can find tin practice, providers c
at obama when obama was talking to him, much better than when obama was talking and looking down, like he was being lectured. i think we have to talk about the debate and the debate rules and the moderator. you know, the idea -- they were very excited, the debate commissioned about the 15-minute pods to allow more exchange. but it allowed more, longer speeches and talking points. jim lehrer, a man for whom i have tremendous esteem, seemed to lose control of the debate, occasionally. he seemed...
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obama the minute mitt romney opens his mouth, obama's taking notes and he just talked and looked down and looked down and looked down. he's never making contact. >> i'm sorry. if you're planning on waxing big bird off of pbs, i don't think that there's americans down for that. >> so, that is from you. thank you for your cnn ireports. now, to twitter. how about some tweets? some downright priceless. first, from dennis miller, obama better hope a kicked rear end is covered under obamacare. next from indecision. the october surprise in this election is that mitt romney is actually good at something. ouch. jim sterling tweets, obama is winning the "looking amazingly condescending when the other guy talks" race. finally this one for you from doug benson. just 14 minutes until we can all go back to preferring the kand date we liked when the debate started. all from twitter. we have a lot more. you know, as far as what happened last night and i promise to hear from the president and it sounds as though he is still debating today. he spoke just a couple hours ago in denver. here he is, presid
obama the minute mitt romney opens his mouth, obama's taking notes and he just talked and looked down and looked down and looked down. he's never making contact. >> i'm sorry. if you're planning on waxing big bird off of pbs, i don't think that there's americans down for that. >> so, that is from you. thank you for your cnn ireports. now, to twitter. how about some tweets? some downright priceless. first, from dennis miller, obama better hope a kicked rear end is covered under...
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obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are they leaking it? >> i don't know. because they're trying to hold onto their people, they're undisciplined, i have no idea. number two, zingers don't exist in a vacuum. it's not just coming up with some funny lines.
obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin...
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president obama came into debate ahead. with an estimated 60 million americans watching, moderator jim layrer asked can you put more people to work? romney would cut taxes and regulations on small business. >> my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates. >> governor romney's proposal calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. the average middle class family with children would pay about $2,000 more. it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math. >> reporter: on medicare and social security,one agreement. >> neither the president nor are are i are proposing any changes. >> aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare, substantially. >> romney fired back a a major debate moment that the president weakened the economy by his focus on health care. >> i don't know how the president could have come into office facing rising unploimt and spending energy and passion fighting for obama care.
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obama. what did she tell you about what it's like for her out there on the campaign trail? >> reporter: you know, i asked her about ann romney's claim when ann romney pressed back about her own husband's critics and ann romney said campaigning is hard. i said does she share that sentiment. here was mrs. obama's response. >> ann romney recently said about the critics of her husband -- to her husband's critics that running for president is hard. do you sympathize with that? >> you know, the campaign experience is unique for everyone. everyone comes to this and experiences it differently. for me i really enjoy campaigning. i think barack and i we both get energy from it because when you live in washington, sometimes you get isolated from the rest of the country. and this is a time when we get out and we can remember just how decent people are. i come across people i don't care what political party they come from, they are hopeful. they're happy to see you. they're willing to listen. and it's go
obama. what did she tell you about what it's like for her out there on the campaign trail? >> reporter: you know, i asked her about ann romney's claim when ann romney pressed back about her own husband's critics and ann romney said campaigning is hard. i said does she share that sentiment. here was mrs. obama's response. >> ann romney recently said about the critics of her husband -- to her husband's critics that running for president is hard. do you sympathize with that? >>...
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obama is likability. if he is seen attacking people with zingers, which are completely unprofessional, completely unpresidential, i mean, this sort of street fight combative thing, that's not where he wants to be. i was talking to martin bashir before the show. he doesn't want to do that, and his entire life is wrapped around that, about not being combative in that way. he doesn't want to do that. that's his entire life wrapped around that. i mean, i also saw, you know, a guy who is leading. the likability is more important than winning this debate. i know i'm winning this thing. it's this dynamic we've seen a lot in las vegas or perhaps atlantic city when we get a champion and challenger. the challenger has nothing to lose and goes nuts and flings punches everywhere. what does he have to lose? i don't need to mix it up with you. i'm going it to win on points and layback. sometimes that strategy wins and sometimes it doesn't. >> it's always frustrating if you're a fan to watch it fully. >> it's bizarre. >
obama is likability. if he is seen attacking people with zingers, which are completely unprofessional, completely unpresidential, i mean, this sort of street fight combative thing, that's not where he wants to be. i was talking to martin bashir before the show. he doesn't want to do that, and his entire life is wrapped around that, about not being combative in that way. he doesn't want to do that. that's his entire life wrapped around that. i mean, i also saw, you know, a guy who is leading....
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you've got romney obama debate. big bird. >> and jobs. so we see the focus on it was mostly about the economy, you see the focus on the substance of this debate as opposed to just the zingers and squabbling between the candidates and i was fascinated by the role of xbox. >> xbox is a controller you can use in your living room to play games on your television set and there's a subscription called xbox live. you can play with people by using a game controller. well, what happened last night is that xbox decided to let the video of the debate stream and they posed questions to gameers saying "at this moment who would you vote for?" immediately you had obama 75% of the gamers say yes or mitt romney 10% of the gamers say yes. it's a big figure but you get the point. >> even though this is only about 10,000 participated in this microsoft game, these are mostly younger men, 18 to 29 not plugged into politics who are harder to reach and the fact that they were engaged in answering these questions about presidential debate i think is a watershed m
you've got romney obama debate. big bird. >> and jobs. so we see the focus on it was mostly about the economy, you see the focus on the substance of this debate as opposed to just the zingers and squabbling between the candidates and i was fascinated by the role of xbox. >> xbox is a controller you can use in your living room to play games on your television set and there's a subscription called xbox live. you can play with people by using a game controller. well, what happened last...
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it was do-over obama today. it was kind of like the guy who has all his come-backs five minutes too late, and he had all his come-backs on the campaign trail today, calling mitt romney a whole new person, different kind of candidate, and you saw a very much more aggressive president obama, and i think that's what you will see two weeks from now when he shows up at the next debate with romney in new york. >> jim, on the campaign trail, governor romney today more energized? >> absolutely, anderson. we were with him on his campaign plane during the day and as he got on the plane, he was smiling, he was laughing with his campaign staff. there was a spring in his step. there was an air of confidence in this campaign that i haven't seen in several weeks and in talking to senior romney advisor eric fehrnstrom, he said to me if this was a prize fight, they would have stopped the fight. that's how well they think mitt romney did. they're not going to be taking their foot off the gas pedal, i can tell you that the romney
it was do-over obama today. it was kind of like the guy who has all his come-backs five minutes too late, and he had all his come-backs on the campaign trail today, calling mitt romney a whole new person, different kind of candidate, and you saw a very much more aggressive president obama, and i think that's what you will see two weeks from now when he shows up at the next debate with romney in new york. >> jim, on the campaign trail, governor romney today more energized? >>...
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obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress bute basically going to ask for mor. time to finish the job. t the romney camp says this is where their guy is going to be tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight. >> chris, thank you. >> good evening. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs moderating this debate. >> i'm jim lehrer and welcome you to the first of the 2012l presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former, massachusetts governor mitt romney the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sp
obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress bute basically going to ask for mor. time to finish the job. t the romney camp says this is where their guy is going to be tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will...
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>> obama: i don't. >> romney: again, that's for future people -- >> obama: i understand. so if you are 54 or 55 you might want to listen because this will affect you. the idea which was originally presented by congressman ryan your running mate is that we would give a voucher to seniors, and they could go out in the private marketplace and buy their own health insurance. the problem is that because the voucher wouldn't necessarily keep up with health care inflation it was estimated that this would cost the average senior about $6,000 a year. now, in fairness what governor romney has now said is he'll maintain traditional medicare alongside of it. but what happens is those insurance companies are pretty clever at figuring out who are the younger and healthier seniors, they recruit them and every health care economist who looks at it says over time what happen will happen is the traditional medicare system will collapse. and then you have folks like my grandmother at the mercy of the private insurance system when they are most in need of decent health care. so i don't think
>> obama: i don't. >> romney: again, that's for future people -- >> obama: i understand. so if you are 54 or 55 you might want to listen because this will affect you. the idea which was originally presented by congressman ryan your running mate is that we would give a voucher to seniors, and they could go out in the private marketplace and buy their own health insurance. the problem is that because the voucher wouldn't necessarily keep up with health care inflation it was...
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>> the president obama looks nothing like the candidate obama. he talked about lowering the deficit in half, not redistributing wealth. and not, as he said, hurting the taxpayer and gtting rid of broad and things like that. i think these economists look at numbers and they see reality, they featu $6 trillion in debt. and they figure it is time to move on. neil: having said that, they seem to have crunched the numbers and looked on the weakness of this recovery and concluded maybe a fresh start is in order. but doesn't factor in a smart money angle that we are missing? smart money seems to be saying that there is not mh money for this recovery to be had. >> will look at their records. we have president obama who hasn't had any experience in the private sector and we have governor romney who does understand. america, yes, we do need a ceo in chief. we also need someone who understands that the business leadership to be able to broker and work in washington where there is a lot of polarized politics. governor romney is adjusting licies that democrat
>> the president obama looks nothing like the candidate obama. he talked about lowering the deficit in half, not redistributing wealth. and not, as he said, hurting the taxpayer and gtting rid of broad and things like that. i think these economists look at numbers and they see reality, they featu $6 trillion in debt. and they figure it is time to move on. neil: having said that, they seem to have crunched the numbers and looked on the weakness of this recovery and concluded maybe a fresh...
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obama takes no interest in this. rick, when was the last time you even heard president obama talk about growth? >> let me actually switch -- let me switch to mark now. mark, what do you think of the obama tax plan? >> well, look, i don't know if obama has really a tax plan, but i don't think the problem is taxes here. i think the problem is people don't have an income. the reason they don't have an income, they don't have jobs. we have a demand problem in the economy, not a tax problem. cutting taxes, if you have no income, does not make any difference. we need to stimulate demand. how can we stimulate demand? we can do it in a variety of ways, but cutting taxes is not going to get us where we want to go. >> victoria, the message of mitt romney, and a lot of people, is if you overhaul this complex tax code and get the incentives back in, that will help small businesses, particularly go out, build their businesses, and hire more people. >> i think that's absolutely true. business owners, small and large, are holding b
obama takes no interest in this. rick, when was the last time you even heard president obama talk about growth? >> let me actually switch -- let me switch to mark now. mark, what do you think of the obama tax plan? >> well, look, i don't know if obama has really a tax plan, but i don't think the problem is taxes here. i think the problem is people don't have an income. the reason they don't have an income, they don't have jobs. we have a demand problem in the economy, not a tax...
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obama's far worse. >> i think that's exactly right. the romney we have all seen -- even those of us who support him, will agree he's made some steps andma made inelegant statements and things that have contributed to an impression that he had to vanquish tonight. that's one thing he did, he had to vanquish the idea that he is out of touch. a be november issue, on the tax cuts and medicare and these things, talking about... again, it's hard to see how he could have done a bettered job. there was no defining moment there such as there guagain that will be repeated, i believe. but other than that, that was one of the finest deby reaction. stay tuned, bret and geeingyn will be right back in just a moment. >> governor, what about simpson-bowles, do you support it? >> the president should have grabbed that -- >> flow, i mean, do you support simpson-bowles? >> i have my own plan. but in my view, the president should have grabbed. it if you want adjustment, take it, make adjustments, to it -- [overlapping dialogue] >> you have been president f
obama's far worse. >> i think that's exactly right. the romney we have all seen -- even those of us who support him, will agree he's made some steps andma made inelegant statements and things that have contributed to an impression that he had to vanquish tonight. that's one thing he did, he had to vanquish the idea that he is out of touch. a be november issue, on the tax cuts and medicare and these things, talking about... again, it's hard to see how he could have done a bettered job....
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and ironically if you repeal obama care, and i've become fond of this terms, obama care. if you repeal it, what happens, those seniors will pay $600 more in prescription care, will have to pay copays for basic checkups that will keep them healthier and the primary beneficiary of that repeal are insurance companies that are estimated to gain billions of dollars back when they aren't making seniors any healthier, and i don't think that's the right approach when it comes to making sure that medicare is stronger over the long term. >> we'll talk about -- specifically about health care in a moment. do you support the voucher system, governor? >> what i support is no change for current retirees and near retirees to medicare and the president supports taking $716 million out of that program. that's number one. number two, for people coming aalong that are young. what i do to make sure we have medicare in place for them. is allow them to choose the current medicare program or a private plan, their choice. and they'll have at least two plans that will be entirely at no cost to the
and ironically if you repeal obama care, and i've become fond of this terms, obama care. if you repeal it, what happens, those seniors will pay $600 more in prescription care, will have to pay copays for basic checkups that will keep them healthier and the primary beneficiary of that repeal are insurance companies that are estimated to gain billions of dollars back when they aren't making seniors any healthier, and i don't think that's the right approach when it comes to making sure that...
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the withdrawal of troops from iraq, under obama, not bush. you begin to see a dialdown in afghanistan, under obama, not bush. it seems to me even if you don't agree with all this positive, it's sort of difficult for me to imagine that this wasn't a successful presidency. >> well, what's success? you can go to school and get 59% on a test, you still fail. you need to get above a certain mark. that number-one mark when it comes to america in the last four years was supposed to be economy. we had the lowest amount of workforce participation since the 1980s. unemployment is going down because people are jumping out of the workforce. that's not an encouraging sign. now we're talking abanother recession on the horizon. that's going to be the marker he's going to be measured by. although there have been successes, don't ask, done tell i believe was a good mark for him to put into place, i concur with that. but when you look at number-one thing he'll be measured by, it's the economy and he gets a failing mark. >> as an african-american woman out on h
the withdrawal of troops from iraq, under obama, not bush. you begin to see a dialdown in afghanistan, under obama, not bush. it seems to me even if you don't agree with all this positive, it's sort of difficult for me to imagine that this wasn't a successful presidency. >> well, what's success? you can go to school and get 59% on a test, you still fail. you need to get above a certain mark. that number-one mark when it comes to america in the last four years was supposed to be economy....
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we are not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> wednesday, president obama and mitt romney have their first presidential debate. joins the stand for the debate and post-debate coverage. join us live. >> now a debate from the 2000 presidential campaign. vice president al gore was nominated by the democrats and texas gov. george w. bush was the republican choice that your. their first three meetings that -- their thirst -- their first of three meetings that year was held in boston. this is an hour and 45 minutes. >> good evening from the clark athletic center at the university of massachusetts in boston. i'm jim lehrer of the newshour on pbs, and i welcome you to the first of three 90-minute debates between the democratic candidate for president, vice president al gore and the republican candidate, governor george w. bush of texas. the debates are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates and they will be conducted within formats and rules agreed to between the commission and the two campaigns. we'll have the candidates at podiums. no answer to a question can exceed
we are not going to have four more years of barack obama. >> wednesday, president obama and mitt romney have their first presidential debate. joins the stand for the debate and post-debate coverage. join us live. >> now a debate from the 2000 presidential campaign. vice president al gore was nominated by the democrats and texas gov. george w. bush was the republican choice that your. their first three meetings that -- their thirst -- their first of three meetings that year was held...